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Jun 6, 2015 10:18 PM

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holy shit, I never imagined they'd make it look that awesome.
Jun 6, 2015 10:46 PM
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all i can say its not Zone 2 its just the true form of the Zone which Kagami will unleash, so all the Zones so far are incomplete
Jun 6, 2015 11:11 PM

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a zone inside a zone inside a zone inside a zone ...... ZoneCiption
Jun 6, 2015 11:12 PM

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What a wild match! It's like watching a battle between a Tiger and Lion (King)!

I got the chills when Akashi said "You've defied me this long... It's not enough to merely have you sit. On your knees. Stay in that pose of admiration and realize... your defeat is absolute."!! I'm not surprised if Akashi had some sort of royal blood.... The nobility in him is strong!!

(At this point in time....) The trigger for Kagami and Akashi are polar opposites. I guess that is reflected on how their team operates. It's hard to imagine Akashi losing in this state, considering how he beat down 3 Uncrowned Kings with energy to spare.

I can't wait to see Kagami's Zone 2.0 being animated. This episode was beastly enough with Akashi's red flare, but I expect more fireworks to be lit once Kagami enters the Zone fully.
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Animation was on point. I love how jerky Akashi's movements are when he's playing in the zone (didn't think it was possible for him to get even creepier)

Love the contrast between Kagami's zone trigger (playing for his teammates) and Akashi's trigger ("abandoning" his teammates)

So many water analogies and zoneceptions. Kagami better find the gatekeeper like frikkin Thor or some shit & win so Hyuga asks Riko out!!

Really trying as a recovering yaoi fan girl not to ship Kagami and Kuroko but they make it so hard. I love how Kagami's always so attentive to Kuroko's every move, even if it's just in a best friend/teammate sort of way
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Shuhan said:
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"A Zone greater than Zone" -Aomine 2015.


Lmao. I hope that line was not properly translated because it was so stupid.


He says "Zone koeta Zone," which roughly translates to "[a] Zone beyond [the] Zone." Only slightly less lame though haha
Jun 6, 2015 11:19 PM
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Finally a better episode in a long long while. Very entertaining this week. Zone within the zone sounds super duper cliche though..
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Jun 6, 2015 11:29 PM

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Sigh, just when i was thinking this season has fewer ass pulls than the last one, they're now talking about a second zone -_-

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Jun 6, 2015 11:30 PM
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countessaart said:

Really trying as a recovering yaoi fan girl not to ship Kagami and Kuroko but they make it so hard. I love how Kagami's always so attentive to Kuroko's every move, even if it's just in a best friend/teammate sort of way


Haha! I can't help but giggle every episode whenever I remember those doujinshi that I've read, but this episode quickly shut me up. So much tension. I love it!
Jun 6, 2015 11:41 PM

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HELL YEAH! The moment I've been waiting for! Akashi in the zone!





More OP Akashi greatness.

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Jun 7, 2015 12:22 AM
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The funniest thing is Akashi
Jun 7, 2015 12:47 AM

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LOL! I like this episode!

And finally! Akashi in the Zone!




Jun 7, 2015 12:48 AM

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HELL YEAH! The moment I've been waiting for! Akashi in the zone!





More OP Akashi greatness.



OMG!! I love this!




Jun 7, 2015 12:58 AM

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Hyuga finally found a way to counter Mibuchi's three-pointers. Holy shit, Akashi's Zone. He has absolutely no need for his teammates, which he even stated. We all know Kagami is eventually going to activate the "Zone beyond the Zone" so that will be pretty exciting
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Jun 7, 2015 1:55 AM

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gghelis said:
The funniest thing is Akashi


But before we get there we will go through a lot of pain... T_T

His zone was worth the wait, but it kinda (at least for me) felt better in manga, idk. Four episodes left, nooooooooo.
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Jun 7, 2015 2:05 AM

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1. Glad Akashi's zone didn't look like this:



I know a lot of people were hoping that it would look this way, but personally I find it weird-looking.

2. Also glad they didn't make zone Akashi markedly faster than zone Kagami. In the manga, he left Kagami (who was still standing) in the dust. In the anime, Kagami was left sprawling on the floor and still managed to catch up, but zone Akashi used his EE-powered dribbling skills and Nebuya to shake him off instead, which I find fits Akashi's skill sets better.

3. The Void shot was explained much better with the use of animation.

4. The zone beyond the zone. Been reading comments about it on various sites. Glad that people are responding to it with good-natured humor rather than bitterness. And yeah, as some people have already stated, it is not what you think it is. There will be no teleporting, flying or dunking from half court.

5. Kagami's defensive zone in conjunction with Stealth-man-to-man-defense is OP in a way I've never thought about before. Trying to avoid Kagami's block and Kuroko's steal must be difficult and stressful.

6. Too players have been hogging the commentary since the opening tip-off. Let other teams have a say, dammit! :)

7. Based on next week's preview, production I.G. are not letting up on the animation. Hope the animation quality continues all the way to the finale.

8. Kuroko and Kiyoshi's 'I surrender' pose still cracks me up. And Akashi's layup actually bounced on the rim before going in. Imagine him missing after all that showy play and smack talk.

9. Just do it, Kagami. DO IT!
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8. Kuroko and Kiyoshi's 'I surrender' pose still cracks me up. And Akashi's layup actually bounced on the rim before going in. Imagine him missing after all that showy play and smack talk.

Good idea for an NG-shuu episode.
Jun 7, 2015 3:02 AM

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lmao, god, Akashi manages to reach new levels of far fetched bullshit every single episode. His pretentious speeches don't even mean anything anymore - he's just spewing out long sentences of nothing at this point. Like, "the trigger to enter this state is my will to guarantee grasping victory by my actions and not by commanding others to do so"? Really? I'm pretty sure if you squeezed him too hard he'd fart out the dummy's guide to sounding like a tosser.
Jun 7, 2015 3:14 AM

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Just when Serin seems to stand up again. Akashi goes into the zone.
Wow, Akashi is even stronger without his team mates! Things are becoming more interesting now.
Jun 7, 2015 5:08 AM

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Wow, is it just me, or was the animation for this episode horrendous?

Akashi's zone was pretty cool.

There we go, two of the 3 asspulls in this match,the existence of ZONECEPTION. That's probably the most ridiculous concept I've seen in the entire series. "I heard you liked Zones, so I put a Zone in your Zone so you can enter the Zone while you're in the Zone."


Second asspull,Akashi just somehow being able to enter the zone, without any real explanation whatsoever. "Oh I can just enter this state of focus by abandoning you. K Thanks."
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Jun 7, 2015 5:11 AM

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I think if Midorima-kun get in the zone He can shoot from Japan to China
And there is a Zone greater than the Zone and that Zone is known as.....The Twilight Zone.

Jun 7, 2015 5:37 AM
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Mibuchi is so cool. I wish I could be as cool and friendly as him irl...
Jun 7, 2015 7:03 AM

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XPwnDEnd said:
Ah hell yeah! Akashi in the zone was just wonderful to see -- coast to coast blow by against Seirin, which he started himself with the steal! We're approaching the absolute climax of this game right when the NBA Finals are underway. Makes me wonder if Production IG planned this at all. If not, this is simply a wonderful coincidence. XD


You may have something there. The gap between seasons 2 and 3 is significantly shorter than the gap between seasons 1 and 2.

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8. Kuroko and Kiyoshi's 'I surrender' pose still cracks me up. And Akashi's layup actually bounced on the rim before going in. Imagine him missing after all that showy play and smack talk.

Good idea for an NG-shuu episode.


I can do that, but not until the season is finished. My other ideas:

1) Akashi's elbow pass going into the crowd. Cut to Hayama laughing and cue Akashi's death stare.

2) Midorima: that was a good loop and the spin has zero deviation.
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Jun 7, 2015 7:14 AM

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Fantastic episode! We finally get to see Akashi's zone and it's as OP as expected. Let's see how Kagami's zone beyond zone does.
Jun 7, 2015 8:22 AM

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The final match is better executed in the anime than in the manga. I'm looking forward to the - I suppose - three more episodes.

There are still some highlights waiting.

Akashi abondoning his team mates - this is exactly why 'his basketball' is doomed to fail and 'The Basketball which Kuroko Plays' is superior.
Jun 7, 2015 8:50 AM

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A zone in the zone.

Zoneception.
Jun 7, 2015 9:10 AM

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damn the animation of Akashi's zone is awesome, too bad Kagami will open the second gate that leads to a zone beyond the zone, the metazone lol
aka bullshit asspull
Jun 7, 2015 9:36 AM
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Akashi zone is awesome!! But The "fake" to Kuroko and Kiyoshi was clearly a violation......
Jun 7, 2015 12:03 PM

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I gotcha. All the trainers from all the greatest basket teams are the previous generation of the champions!
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Jun 7, 2015 1:11 PM

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Amazing animation during Akashi's zone. Already in the 4th quarter, fairly good pacing.
Jun 7, 2015 1:19 PM

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I still can't figure out why people are calling "ass-pull." Id love to know what is it that you want to happen.

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Akashi zone is awesome!! But The "fake" to Kuroko and Kiyoshi was clearly a violation......
It's called a skip dribble, totally legal.
Jun 7, 2015 1:51 PM

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Hyuuga was cool in this episode. I like the relationships between third years.
Akashi amazing as well. Doesnt need anyone but himself, cool.
Cant wait for next week.
Jun 7, 2015 1:54 PM

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ibear said:

talos91 said:
Akashi zone is awesome!! But The "fake" to Kuroko and Kiyoshi was clearly a violation......
It's called a skip dribble, totally legal.


He took 2 steps with the ball in his hand(the ball is in his hand in the beginning of the move, he falls with both feet and than starts dribbling) , that is totally a dribbling violation


But this is only an anime error, in the manga he just looks up making the fake.
They wanted things to look cooler and it ended slightly wrong. The anime does a lot of those, so is better not to look deep on it. Kuroko isn't even a deep in the rules series so is better not even to think about it.
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holy shit man Akashi was just like a boss
Jun 7, 2015 2:28 PM

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I still can't figure out why people are calling "ass-pull."
Rakuzan shitstomping everyone in the tournament. Comes Cinderella Seirin to challenge them. Gets destroyed too by Akashi and his peons. Only chance to win is by relying on God Kagami who receives a random power up in the last stretch of the game to make Seirin victorious and have Akashi losing for the first time.
Jun 7, 2015 2:54 PM

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Will Seirin pull their biggest ass-pull to date?
Akashi's animation - AMAZING, I loved the dialogue too. I keep saying this but Seirin is just so unflattering to me, they're so unnecessary loud and obnoxious.
But seriously? Another door? A zone in a zone? Are they all on drugs
Jun 7, 2015 3:31 PM

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I wonder if Kuroko has a zone... But anyway, Seirin catching up from a 20-point deficit feels like a huge ass-pull to me
Jun 7, 2015 3:40 PM

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I still can't figure out why people are calling "ass-pull."
Rakuzan shitstomping everyone in the tournament. Comes Cinderella Seirin to challenge them. Gets destroyed too by Akashi and his peons. Only chance to win is by relying on God Kagami who receives a random power up in the last stretch of the game to make Seirin victorious and have Akashi losing for the first time.
Random power up? Kise said he was equal to the GoM after the practice match
Jun 7, 2015 3:42 PM

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lmao @ people calling Kagami the ass-pull when Akashi's entire character is a guy who's the height and build of a slender woman but is magically the ultra best at basketball and also has a magic eye gifted by his demonic second personality.

Kagami's a guy that trained in basketball in America and is tall with a muscular build. They've already established he's good at the game, really good. The concept of him being so desperate to win that he manages to unlock new power that's literally just based on strengthening his already obvious ability isn't the stupidest thing this show has ever done by far.
Jun 7, 2015 3:43 PM

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ibear said:

It's called a skip dribble, totally legal.


He took 2 steps with the ball in his hand(the ball is in his hand in the beginning of the move, he falls with both feet and than starts dribbling) , that is totally a dribbling violation


But this is only an anime error, in the manga he just looks up making the fake.
They wanted things to look cooler and it ended slightly wrong. The anime does a lot of those, so is better not to look deep on it. Kuroko isn't even a deep in the rules series so is better not even to think about it.
Once again, it's a skip dribble. He never stopped dribbling, just took a skipping step.
Jun 7, 2015 5:46 PM
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God Akashi has awoken >//<
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ibear said:
bigivelfhq said:

But this is only an anime error, in the manga he just looks up making the fake.
They wanted things to look cooler and it ended slightly wrong. The anime does a lot of those, so is better not to look deep on it. Kuroko isn't even a deep in the rules series so is better not even to think about it.


Once again, it's a skip dribble. He never stopped dribbling, just took a skipping step.


Initially my thoughts were the same as bigivelhq's. If anything, the move is just slightly illegal if you compare it to a hopstep which is perfectly legal (not a travel violation): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNHvktSZcHc

But if a skip dribble is legal, all the better.

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lmao @ people calling Kagami the ass-pull when Akashi's entire character is a guy who's the height and build of a slender woman but is magically the ultra best at basketball and also has a magic eye gifted by his demonic second personality.

Kagami's a guy that trained in basketball in America and is tall with a muscular build. They've already established he's good at the game, really good. The concept of him being so desperate to win that he manages to unlock new power that's literally just based on strengthening his already obvious ability isn't the stupidest thing this show has ever done by far.


This, even though there are explanations for the EE and eye color change.


Bunch of people calling asspull when there is none. The word asspull is like the word misogynist these days, so overused (and abused) that the original meaning is lost.

By their logic, everything that is a new move or a new reveal is an asspull:

Kagami shot a 3 in season 2 but he didn't do it in season 1. Asspull. Izuki didn't use Eagle's Spear against Too and Yosen, but pulled it out of his ass against Kaijou. And meteor jam too. Who cares if there was foreshadowing for it with Alex's training. Nobody actually said these, but it does show how silly their arguments are.

The complete zone is revealed. Asspull, because we are supposed to assume the original zone is the complete one. When something is revealed to be more than what it was, asspull.

Akashi going into the zone. Asspull, even though there is a flashback of him thinking about it, and successfully going into it, and then explaining that his insights (understanding the mental state needed to go into it) and self-awareness (knowing his trigger) were the reasons he was able to do it. Not to mention that he's the strongest GoM and last boss, and the zone was meant to be a trump card used in desperate situations.

And this must be another definition of asspull: When something happens that I don't like, don't understand, or can't explain, or if something unlikely happens, it's an asspull.

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I wonder if Kuroko has a zone... But anyway, Seirin catching up from a 20-point deficit feels like a huge ass-pull to me


By that definition, yes, your feelings are right. Even comebacks must be considered asspull.
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1. Glad Akashi's zone didn't look like this:



I know a lot of people were hoping that it would look this way, but personally I find it weird-looking

Eh, that's what I expected to be honest :/ Looks way cooler imo.

Zone within the zone huh... Not that I have expected anything better. I'm also guessing that the 'shadow' is Kagami himself, definitely would be surprised if it was someone else.
Jun 7, 2015 6:47 PM

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Akashi entering the zone was sick.
A zone greater then zone? We'll see if Kogami can open it. I'm sure he will.
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Torrible said:
ibear said:


Once again, it's a skip dribble. He never stopped dribbling, just took a skipping step.


Initially my thoughts were the same as bigivelhq's. If anything, the move is just slightly illegal if you compare it to a hopstep which is perfectly legal (not a travel violation): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNHvktSZcHc

But if a skip dribble is legal, all the better.

straggy said:
lmao @ people calling Kagami the ass-pull when Akashi's entire character is a guy who's the height and build of a slender woman but is magically the ultra best at basketball and also has a magic eye gifted by his demonic second personality.

Kagami's a guy that trained in basketball in America and is tall with a muscular build. They've already established he's good at the game, really good. The concept of him being so desperate to win that he manages to unlock new power that's literally just based on strengthening his already obvious ability isn't the stupidest thing this show has ever done by far.


This, even though there are explanations for the EE and eye color change.


Bunch of people calling asspull when there is none. The word asspull is like the word misogynist these days, so overused (and abused) that the original meaning is lost.

By their logic, everything that is a new move or a new reveal is an asspull:

Kagami shot a 3 in season 2 but he didn't do it in season 1. Asspull. Izuki didn't use Eagle's Spear against Too and Yosen, but pulled it out of his ass against Kaijou. And meteor jam too. Who cares if there was foreshadowing for it with Alex's training. Nobody actually said these, but it does show how silly their arguments are.

The complete zone is revealed. Asspull, because we are supposed to assume the original zone is the complete one. When something is revealed to be more than what it was, asspull.

Akashi going into the zone. Asspull, even though there is a flashback of him thinking about it, and successfully going into it, and then explaining that his insights (understanding the mental state needed to go into it) and self-awareness (knowing his trigger) were the reasons he was able to do it. Not to mention that he's the strongest GoM and last boss, and the zone was meant to be a trump card used in desperate situations.

And this must be another definition of asspull: When something happens that I don't like, don't understand, or can't explain, or if something unlikely happens, it's an asspull.

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I wonder if Kuroko has a zone... But anyway, Seirin catching up from a 20-point deficit feels like a huge ass-pull to me


By that definition, yes, your feelings are right. Even comebacks must be considered asspull.


whether something is an asspull or not in this anime depends on how realistic to real basketball u want it to be. If you expected no realism at all, then even kagami teleporting from court to court or half court dunk would not be considered an asspull. If you're hoping for it be a bit more realistic, then the 2nd zone would be considered an asspull because it takes years of training to be able to coordinate and be in sync with the team. one does not simply become in sync in the final 3 minutes of the game. Of course i agree that comebacks are not an asspull.
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Torrible said:
ibear said:


Once again, it's a skip dribble. He never stopped dribbling, just took a skipping step.


Initially my thoughts were the same as bigivelhq's. If anything, the move is just slightly illegal if you compare it to a hopstep which is perfectly legal (not a travel violation): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNHvktSZcHc

But if a skip dribble is legal, all the better.
It's not a hopstep because he never gathers the ball, and as good as Akashi is, at 5'8 I'm gonna doubt that he can palm a ball mid dribble. He also doesn't land with both feet at the same time.
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Careful about spoilers. Also, did you have to quote my entire post?

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whether something is an asspull or not in this anime depends on how realistic to real basketball u want it to be. If you expected no realism at all, then even kagami teleporting from court to court or half court dunk would not be considered an asspull.




Although there is always some subjectivity with regards to what constitutes asspull, it shouldn't be completely subjected to individual expectations and whims.

An asspull, according to the original definition, has to be completely unbelievable or has to break the existing rules of the universe.


ibear said:

It's not a hopstep because he never gathers the ball, and as good as Akashi is, at 5'8 I'm gonna doubt that he can palm a ball mid dribble. He also doesn't land with both feet at the same time.


Yeah I know it wasn't a hop step. I was just saying that, in my mind, previously, the legality of a hop step should mitigate what Akashi did. But that's irrelevant now if a skip dribble is what it was.
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Akashi in zone. Finally, another zone vs zone. Murasakibara zone is too short. Hopefully, this zone battle will last longer. Oh, Kuroko better has zone. This show is name after him.
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oh man, it's getting worse and worse
fuck kagami, just make worthless seirin lose and take another training camp
instead of inventing a 2nd zone, wth
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An asspull, according to the original definition, has to be completely unbelievable or has to break the existing rules of the universe.

That is why it is entirely based on one's expectations because everyone has a different standard of what is unbelievable. I should note that using willpower to break precedent is not anything new, but it can get unrealistic if the new limit is too far ahead of the old one. Kagami extending the time limit of the zone is ok for some people depending on HOW LONG the extension is. Some people might be ok with a 5 minute extension. some people might be ok with a 10 minute. So when does it become unrealistic? 15 minutes? 20 minutes? 30 minutes? No one can answer this but yourself. some people though him staying in the current zone is quite long but is still ok with it and some people already thinks its too long.
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